OCA Meeting (17 October 2007)
NOTES: OCA Meeting
17 October 2007
- Introduction by Brewster and others
- Round robin introductions by attendees
- Project Updates
- Betsy Kruger gave an update on microfilm scanning; 1.9 seconds per image; editing 1.8 seconds for processing; UIUC cost $14 per reel of film. Brewster gave a discussion of how to deal with various types of mfm (things in copyright on film; out of copyright on film done by others)
- Brewster discussed a pilot project to do ILL via electronic materials of out of print books; Cathy Norton gave an example of how MBL/WHOI is doing this now
- Tom Garnett gave an overview/update of BHL
- Aaron Swartz gave an update/overview of the OpenLibrary.org project and encouraged libraries to contribute data to the project
- Dane Neller from Print on Demand (the Espresso book machine and other possible integration such as Amazon Book Surge, Lulu, etc.); 300 page book in about 6 minutes @ around a penny a page for the Espresso machine
- Brewster discussed copyright renewal (orphan copyright status); IA has worked with a variety of resources and projects to do an automated check for copyright renewal
- Breakout Reports
- Book Scanning: Feeding the Machine (Jonathan Bengtson)
- interested in other types of material (manuscripts, archival, etc.)
- Microfilm
- Scan on demand instead of photocopy
- “the JHU model” for weeding out things from Special collections for scanning
- Importance of foldouts
- Sharing and Integration of Bibliographic Records
- ISBN Topic. Also want to explore other identifier options; Tim noted that there is a preservation issue
- Integration of bibliographic data into WorldCat and ILS. Tim noted that in addition to what we have someone like OL to create new issues, etc. for the future as well as integration into legacy systems (BIP, WorldCat, etc); further discussion on integrating “non-MARC” data
- Static nature of IA bibliographic data.
- Duplication. Awareness of other copies.
- Digital ILL/Scan On Demand (Barbara Preece)
- BLC has agreed to pilot a test of the Digital ILL program
- OCA Opportunities (Betsy Kruger)
- Possible models for organizing OCA that would give it a stronger stucture (DLF, BHL, etc.)
- Sloan Foundation has earmarked funds to study this and volu (Tom Garnett, Linda Freuh, Doran Weber, John SEU, Maura Marx, Barbara Preece, Betsy, Carol Moore) (Toronto)
- UIUC will set up a communication methods for things; Linda will be in charge of adding people to the list; a wiki worskpace; FAQ on working with the OCA (how to contribute none IA material to the IA); Maura will look at BaseCamp for this
- Felt that the OCA website needed some graphic design, current content, new content (white paper on open access issues)
Breakout Session: Sharing and Integration of Bibliographic Records (40 people)
Discussion Leader: Martin Kalfatovic, Smithsonian Institution Libraries
- Angela D'Agostino of Bowker gave an update on the ISBN concept and how that might be used. Publisher of the digitized work will be the physical owner of the ISBN. The library will then give back to Bowker the bibliographic metadata associated with the ISBN; just for out of print; ISBNs will be used with Books in Print, etc.; Bowker has verbal agreements with libraries and commercial scanning project.
- Alexis: will only books that are digitized get the ISBN? Chris Freeland noted that there are all ready lots of duplicates in IA. Aaron commented that OL would like to use ISBN. Suzanne had questions of work flow and how that would work. Martin noted that the ISBN would be one of many unique identifiers. Karen was wondering what the ISBN would identify.
- Tim Cole noted that in the print world there are multiple ISBNs for the same book (or close enough). Angela pointed out that different scans are different manifestations should have different; the ISTC is the uber ISBN that will link together the different manifestations. Angela mentioned the “actionable ISBN” option. Karen pointed out that what we really need to do is have a system where we can more easily have resolution and linking services to unique ids. Suzanne pointed out that by doing these would generate some of the common fields that everyone could use.
- Martin pointed out that the ISBN is just another “YODI (yet another digital identifier)”
- Integration of scanned data into ILS and WorldCat. Kirill Fesenko, just starting out bibliographic records need to be linked in various ways so that OCA members can share standards, etc. Tim Cole discussed how UIUC was doing this and that he does not feel that it can ever be fully automated and that there will be some handwork; Guenther reported on some of Bill Carney's work (e-content synchronization) with other mass scanning projects (Google, MSN) and that Bill will want to talk with OCA/Brewster again to get the discussion going. Suzanne noted that in her discussions with OCLC, there would be a new record associated with the digital version. Karen noted that OCLC is beginning to use the RLG clustering methodology. Karen, does it make sense to duplicate all this information in our local ILS? Suzanne, probably not, our legacy ILS do not make sense in a nexgen catalog world.
- Static element of bibliographic data at the IA. Talis guy said that maybe we need to have the data pulled from the “source” on a real time basis. Suzanne said that this would not really be possible for smaller institutions to maintain that. John Mignault said that maybe the IA should just constantly fetch on the deltas. One person noted the idea of “pingback.” Aaron and Paul Reuban from IA/OL commented that there could Michael Klein (BPL) sees two questions about this topic. Karen noted that the OL wiki editing would stand alone from the MARC record but that this information could be linked or perhaps included somewhere in the MARC record. Suzanne noted that we were talking about MARC, but as we move to nextgen systems, perhaps the future migrations will not need to use this system (e.g. OL). Tim and Kirill discussed usages of METS and MODS in this environment. Chris mentioned that how metadata travels with an object is an open topic; currently IA puts all serial objects with the same bibliographic metadata.